Changing paint / interior color affect value?

dude234 said:
"michael king" All cars made 50+ years ago have fundamental flaws compared to cars built today. Check out a 1960's notch back Mustang trunk floor. You will see that the trunk floor is the top of the gas tank with no fire barrier to the interior other than the back of the rear seat. Of course any car is your property and can be modified as much as you like.


As far as ""dude" you have always had quite polemic opinions on the cars"" is concerned, it seems everyone has opinions on cars, don't they?

All you need to know about me can be seen on the facebook Sunbeam Tiger group page which I created.:D
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"Duuuuuuude" you seem to miss the point about flaws... Of course any car built in the years since the tiger should be better.. Yet the tiger had serious issues that impacted on us ability and driving experience when new, cooling and handling issues with the steering geometry...many people who drive the cars like these sorted and tried to sort them in period. Your mustang reference is redundant and misses the mark.. And the tiger has far more serious flaws in this regard anyway but it doesn't impact the driving experience so most don't care... I'll leave it at that..

They are our own cars do with them what you want... Heck you might get more enjoyment out of them just talking about them on the net... More power to you
 
Another 3 cents worth

Coming from a Corvette and hot rod background as a young fella, I've always viewed the Tiger as a car which begged to be modified/improved. Kudos to those rare guys who have totally original Tigers, and if I'd chosen a Healey or a Jag, or a 356, or…. yeah, I'd likely have wanted to go "completely" original. One reason I chose the Tiger was for the opportunity to build it my way while staying in touch with the spirit of the original car.

Once I'm gone it will be worth whatever it will be worth. Surely more than the chunk of change it cost to restore her even allowing for inflation. How much more? Hard to say. I do think it's great that the Tiger is finally getting some long overdue attention and appreciation, both monetarily and historically, but I never figured mine would be some sort of "investment."

Generally the reaction I get when I show the car is that the men drool, and most women swoon. Nobody's ever asked me if it was an MG. :)

Meanwhile, I'll keep her until I no longer have the strength to push the clutch pedal to the floor. :)
 
Paint not flaws

Back on track Lads,

There was an avocado green metallic car in Monterey with LAT orange stripes across the stern Holy that 70's show Batman:eek:
Under the green was a Med blue code 100 car, there were 3 or more cars they were a variant of Med blue. Not one of them got it close to factory as they personalized towards their preference. A really great car with nice personalized build is, and was for in Monterey and is still on forum here. Painting a particular color does paint you into a corner with buyers. Ask John with the pretty blue car for sale what he thinks he should've done, I think it's really nice.

Having a blue Falcon Convertible it's stock paint was much grayer just like the Rootes color. My 64 VW Conv bug also had a lot of gray in the white. Seems like a lot of cars back then had less than flashy colors. The Falcon got hosed a more baby blue like lots of Tigers but it was the Mrs. car anyway its a 6 cyl car and not a hot rod color and never was.
 
Yes, Back on Track

This thread started off with the question if changing the paint or the interior would affect value. If by "value" one means value to the owner, that is one thing. If monetary value was meant, then that is very different from just saying do what you want to do to your car. I think everyone agrees that a person's car is his or hers to do with as they please. And many of the owners personalize or customize their cars without regard to the affect on resell value and are very happy with their choice. But it is fair to say that cars that are original and stock tend to go for more money. Comparing a "plain Jane" car with tired paint, worn interior, and knocking engine with a repainted, customized car with a new stroker is not fair to either car. If a person with the first car spent the same amount of money fixing it up as the second person spent customizing the second car, I'd wager the first would sell for more money.

It is a good idea to save any original part(s) removed from your car if you are changing things out. You may not care to have a stock car, but the next person considering buying your car might.

The beauty of Tigers is that you can do so many things with them and still have a very nice car. Like my house, I won't worry about what it would sell for until I try to sell it. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy the heck out of it.
 
HolyCat said:
It is a good idea to save any original part(s) removed from your car if you are changing things out. You may not care to have a stock car, but the next person considering buying your car might.
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This is KEY! I have every part I have ever remove from my car, even brake hoses, bent traction bars, leaf springs...etc. The very nice running 260 is on a stand in the corner of the garage and when I go to a 5 speed tranny, the top loader will join it.
 
Here is that green car in question--I loved the stripes.....

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""Duuuuuuude" you seem to miss the point about flaws... Of course any car built in the years since the tiger should be better.. Yet the tiger had serious issues that impacted on us ability and driving experience when new, cooling and handling issues with the steering geometry..."

"Miiiiiiiccccchhhhhaaaaeeeeellll"! You speak of "flaws" of the Tiger : "Yet the tiger had serious issues that impacted on us ability and driving experience when new, cooling and handling issues with the steering geometry..."

I've owned my car for 20 years this year and have yet to encounter any "serious issues" that impacted my ability and others to drive the car in a spirited and safe manner. But then again, my car is mostly stock and has not been "improved". If you are finding all these "serious issues" in your car perhaps you should turn over maintenance to a qualified mechanic. (No offense intended)

Can a 50 year old car be improved upon? Of course, just as any 50 year old car can be modified or improved. If you read the period literature of road tests no one had any complaints because of "serious issues" found while driving the Tiger. For me, if I want up to date performance in a 2 seater, I'll buy a Miata, or Z3, or S2000, or older Corvette, ..... :cool:
 
dude234;21909 I've owned my car for 20 years this year and have yet to encounter any "serious issues" that impacted my ability and others to drive the car in a spirited and safe manner. But then again said:
Dude im sure that offence is intended I just dont take it seriously from someone who hides behind a false name and hides their car from others. Maybe your spirited driving is different to others.. Which is fine. not everyone wants to test the limits and the car in stock form a torquey tourer than an outright sports car.. Maybe you like plodding along in top. As for the flaws in a stock car I bet I can go round a corner quicker in my alpine than in my tiger... Actually I know it.

As for no issues.. They were known for overheating, understeering if cornered quickly , they fractured spring hangers when new and were recommended to be fitted with tramp bars if driven quickly offered vented bonnets and indeed on the 245 HP model had a variety of bolt options to make it handle better... Also the owners manual warned you about the dangers of quick driving on the stock wheels .... All points to limitations in bone stock form if you wanted to drive in a sporting manner... Then again as I said rootes saw it as a tourer/ GT. They had a price point and considered. The handling and braking appropriate for the American market which was its target.. Maybe compared to period USA cars it was not flawed
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Speaking of 'issues'... not much talk about them lately but a lot of cars have suffered a broken lower fulcrum pin !! Luckily ( I suppose ) it more often than not happens when backing up! There have been several 'fixes' devised ...


Jim
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"Dude im sure that offence is intended I just dont take it seriously from someone who hides behind a false name and hides their car from others. "


Take it easy Michael!!! Check out Facebook and you can find all the info you want on me and my car.

All 50+ year old cars suffer from handling, braking, ergonomic, general safety and drivability problems compared to todays car. I should post a list of my friends problems he had with a late 1960's XKE if I can find it. You want to talk about "issues" and "defects"? Well he had a boat load of them to fix and finally sold the car at auction.

My opinion is, for what it is worth, their is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Sunbeam Tiger as it was built and its intended use. The problem comes in with "modifications" and "improvements" that push the performance envelope beyond what Rootes ever invisioned for the car. That, and general metal fatigue and worn out parts that occurs with any old car. Increase the HP of the engine and you get more heat to dissipate (cooling problems), increase tire size and spring rate gives more stress on suspension (broken pins and cracked spring mounts). You can go on with the list but I think you get the general idea.:)
 
66TigerMK1A said:
Speaking of 'issues'... not much talk about them lately but a lot of cars have suffered a broken lower fulcrum pin !! Luckily ( I suppose ) it more often than not happens when backing up! There have been several 'fixes' devised ...


Jim
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If you drive the car it's not "if" but "when".

However, if you keep it perpetually stored in a hermetically sealed environment the fulcrum pins and hose clamps will survive much longer.
 
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A porch in Funk and Wagnalls back yard:D

What was this thread about again? Olive Drab metallic looks better in pics
I'd bet dollars to do nuts he beat seller down on the price.

There is one Med blue original paint car in the Baja Cantina thread very soft very faded. I like my Tigers baked and not stewed in rusty water...

Why would you back up fast and throw the wheel hard over unless you were driving a rental car?



tgrrr said:
If you drive the car it's not "if" but "when".

However, if you keep it perpetually stored in a hermetically sealed environment the fulcrum pins and hose clamps will survive much longer.
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