Dec and Jan Mecum Auctions

Mecum

norm1 said:
https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_id=AU1214-205455 (2)

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_id=FL0115-203379 (4)

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_id=FL0115-204177 (1)

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_id=FL0115-204210 (3)
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Anyone know what percentage of Tigers were Red? Seems like auction cars over the last two years has been 90% Red.
I rate them at 2, 4, 1, 3 in that order. Anyone taking a stab at hammer prices.

I hope all you CA guys are safe during these storms.
 
Yeah, The bottom link in the first post raises some flags and questions.

The hats in the engine compartment are NOT Tiger.

It is a transition body car, square doors, square hood, round corner boot.

Has a Mk1a interior, door panels, soft top cover, but early brake pedals.

I would be doing a lot of digging and questioning before raising my paddle.
 
The overflow tank mounts are strange too. The Alpine fender braces look to be cut off half way down to make room for the rack. Danger Will Robinson.

Also look at how the side trim doesn't line up with the Tiger emblem.
 
Erich said:
Yeah, The bottom link in the first post raises some flags and questions.

The hats in the engine compartment are NOT Tiger.

It is a transition body car, square doors, square hood, round corner boot.

Has a Mk1a interior, door panels, soft top cover, but early brake pedals.

I would be doing a lot of digging and questioning before raising my paddle.
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And this is why I ask a lot of questions and "bug" the people who know these cars. Well worth the price of admission. And a big thanks to those who have helped me out - it's much appreciated!
 
65 Tiger, Mecum Austin

Up to $80,000 but did not meet reserve today.
 
The car was a rat! Fresh paint on the outside and the engine and bottom were 50 years old. Lot of surface rust/age. Supposedly a Kansas car but was not at the Kansas Mecum the week earlier... Seller was not present. Sent a proxy who knew very little about the car. Was "sure it was a real Tiger..."I think the auctioneer smelled a rat when the bidding when from $40K to $80K in one bid... Especially when the bidding was being done in $10K increments. Normal three minute dwell time on stage was greatly shortened... This "no sale" was shill... That is NOT an $80K car...
 
racetig said:
The car was a rat! Fresh paint on the outside and the engine and bottom were 50 years old. Lot of surface rust/age. Supposedly a Kansas car but was not at the Kansas Mecum the week earlier... Seller was not present. Sent a proxy who knew very little about the car. Was "sure it was a real Tiger..."I think the auctioneer smelled a rat when the bidding when from $40K to $80K in one bid... Especially when the bidding was being done in $10K increments. Normal three minute dwell time on stage was greatly shortened... This "no sale" was shill... That is NOT an $80K car...
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Starting to form a pattern! lol

Wondering if there's ever been a 'real' bid on it! :eek:


http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=3513

http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1919

http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=2614



Jim
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WTFV

Okay that means What's The F___ Vin of the Rat? With the vin posted and the constant scooping of data by webcrawlers and spiders anyone searching a vin number will see the trail of incontinence following this Lieger Rat.

I wonder why so many sites ask and require vin numbers to be posted along with sale info. but nobody is watching the store.

The Raton truly is a "Nice collection of parts." really hard to be innocent until proven guilty on this one.
 
Maybe he shouda taken the $110K the first time around at Mecum...:eek:

Here's skinny from last April after the second go-round...
http://www.sportscardigest.com/mecum-kissimmee-2014-auction-report/5/

..." Lot # F281 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Convertible; S/N B9470832LRXFE; Carnival Red, Black hardtop/Black; Visually maintained, largely original, 3+ condition; Not sold at Hammer bid of $95,000 plus commission of; Final Price $95,000 – 260/164hp 2-barrel, 4-speed, LAT 13 inch alloy wheels, red line Tiger Paw bias ply tires, wood rim steering wheel. – Good older repaint with minor edge chips, sound original interior showing some age. Underbody is older than the paint job and is dirty. A usable and attractively original driver. – Reported twice by Mecum, as F261 as a $110,000 no sale and with this result. It’s attractively equipped with things like the rare LATiger wheels and the originality offers some real potential. At the reported high bid ($15,000 less than the high bid it got here last year) it should have been loose and selling."...

and on this site from 'pre' Mecum auctions
http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=564
 
The VIN is B9470832LRXFE... This one has "been around the block" a few times... (Pun intended)
 
Warren said:
Okay that means What's The F___ Vin of the Rat? With the vin posted and the constant scooping of data by webcrawlers and spiders anyone searching a vin number will see the trail of incontinence following this Lieger Rat.

I wonder why so many sites ask and require vin numbers to be posted along with sale info. but nobody is watching the store.

The Raton truly is a "Nice collection of parts." really hard to be innocent until proven guilty on this one.
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I believe # 4 from the first post was the car that I was thinking about buying this last June. I posted some pics and most here said don't do it. I contacted Norm Miller and he said this was not one to invest in. The owner at the time seemed like a nice guy and I wasn't sure he knew what he "didn't have". I could have bought the car for 58500.00 Last June out of Georgia if I remember correctly.
Here is the link to my original post.
http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=2940&highlight=dstephns
If indeed it is the car the vin is B9471262.
 
Just a reminder....the auction company fake bids the car close to reserve and looks for real bidders. If no bidders they roll the car. The bid price often means nothing related to the actual value of the car. Most know the system well. Lee
 
Bad apples or pennies

Keep turning up. I remember the car. As Jim pointed out to me the first thread on CAT pre dates my Tiger purchase. As I may have mentioned before I was a stumble on garage sale buyer and picker who found a lightly broken down car.

The car could be the real deal but it could also have had a front clip.
I know of a recently purchased car that had 2 rear fenders both headlight sections about 12" back and a front valence, plus they hammered flat that pesky un needed generator indentation. It was TAC'ed recently. Would I have bought that car we yes if it would have been cheap enough:cool:

The best advice is from someone without a CAT in the fight.
 
Bad Apples or Pennies

Warren said:
Keep turning up. I remember the car. As Jim pointed out to me the first thread on CAT pre dates my Tiger purchase. As I may have mentioned before I was a stumble on garage sale buyer and picker who found a lightly broken down car.

The car could be the real deal but it could also have had a front clip.
I know of a recently purchased car that had 2 rear fenders both headlight sections about 12" back and a front valence, plus they hammered flat that pesky un needed generator indentation. It was TAC'ed recently. Would I have bought that car we yes if it would have been cheap enough:cool:

The best advice is from someone without a CAT in the fight.
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I suspect, as I'm sure many of you do, that a lot of these cars turn up time and time again because once they are purchased the owners learn what they really have and move them on. Of course there are the flippers too, just trying to make a profit.
 
 
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Just a reminder that 3 of 4 Tigers at Mecum Kissimmee will go on the block this afternoon

The one with the Alpine(ish) inner fenders goes tomorrow :confused:
 
MECUM

Since I have never been to a big auction before, myself & two car guys drove the one hour down to Kissimmee on Thursday, the 22nd. All three of us were blown away at the coin being thrown around there like Monopoly-Money.

Anyway, I did see four 'Beams there. The one pictured was a super nice resto, the others not so nice & one that was questionable to me as a "real" car.

That one with the Alpine (at the very least) inner fenders, appeared that the Vin plate had been off & re-attached as it was bent up / creased. I'm no expert, but I'd be scared of that car..
 
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