Hagerty's Tiger MKII Resto

Cool Project

Gilles,

Don't know anything about the car's VIN number. In their article, they say they want a world class concours car, but I see a lot of things that are wrong for the car. I hope they are going to correct them. One obvious problem is with the rebuilt engine.

Thanks for bringing this project to everyone's attention.
 
hagarty mk2

Ok, so now I know why they raised my insurance rates this year.

Gilles, thanks for posting this. Like David I'm curious why they didn't seek out someone that really knows this 'series 2' model.

I'm not usually a stickler but I can spot a ton stuff that looks like it will stay and is totally wrong, imagine what a true mk2 aficionado would turn up.
 
resto

maybe one of their top agents has been a tiger owner for many years. that could account for a lot of things. I do know that every time I add a car to my policy I have to send photos of the car. it might amaze you how many photos they could have of tigers and the photos alone would give them a good idea of what they need to do. when I called the traverse city office a couple months ago for door prizes, the agent and I had a lengthy conversation concerning sunbeams. looking at this car it's not hard to figure out that it has done nothing but set and go down hill. will it go up for sale? I doubt it and do they care about TAC? maybe not. it also looks like they are not afraid to cut things up to repair the car. who knows !
 
Given they refer to it as a series ii tiger, add an extra 100 cars to the priduction run either the owner or person doing the restoration is not giving the writer the info or they do not know tigers very well. They also clearly state they intend on doing a concourse factory spec nut and bolt restoration.... So they have much learning to do...

"Rarity came into play as well, with only a paltry 633 units of the Series II produced in its first and only model year compared to the 6,450 Series I models produced.
With the project Tiger procured, Hagerty began bringing its tired example up to what will be considered a “Condition 1” rating, classifying the Tiger as a world-class concours specimen, with every single nut, bolt, and washer in perfect condition, and not a single weld, screw, or stitch out of place. To this effect, Hagerty is obsessive about keeping the Tiger all-original, from the use of the original wiring harness tape, down to re-galvanized original bolts. There’s no fire-breathing hot-rod powerhouse under the hood, either: Hagerty is building the engine right back to factory spec"
 
Rates etc

Doubtful they will replace enough to make it a questionable car. Seen lots of rusty Tigers but very few with a rusty butt panel where the back seat would normally go.

I got a little sick of the imbedded advertisements in the 30 pictures and clicked off. Notice they don't say they'll save you 15% :rolleyes:
 
resto

you did notice that the frame rails and X frame have been removed along with many associated parts including the tunnel and floors.
 
No

I got PO and left site when it kept showing me advertising. Maybe you don't have GEICO in Ohio and missed the jab at insurance companies in general. Don't want to drift into a TAC discussion.
 
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633 is the worldwide run number is it not? Somehow between 1978 (when owned a MK II (Seires II Tiger) and today, the number 633 has all but diapsapeered. What's up with that. Of course, in 78 the name CS never came up in the making of the car eaither. Today, CS built the first car in his living room.

Given they refer to it as a series ii tiger, add an extra 100 cars to the priduction run either the owner or person doing the restoration is not giving the writer the info or they do not know tigers very well. They also clearly state they intend on doing a concourse factory spec nut and bolt restoration.... So they have much learning to do...

"Rarity came into play as well, with only a paltry 633 units of the Series II produced in its first and only model year compared to the 6,450 Series I models produced.
With the project Tiger procured, Hagerty began bringing its tired example up to what will be considered a “Condition 1” rating, classifying the Tiger as a world-class concours specimen, with every single nut, bolt, and washer in perfect condition, and not a single weld, screw, or stitch out of place. To this effect, Hagerty is obsessive about keeping the Tiger all-original, from the use of the original wiring harness tape, down to re-galvanized original bolts. There’s no fire-breathing hot-rod powerhouse under the hood, either: Hagerty is building the engine right back to factory spec"
 
I got PO and left site when it kept showing me advertising. Maybe you don't have GEICO in Ohio and missed the jab at insurance companies in general. Don't want to drift into a TAC discussion.

If it started as a Series II, it's always a Series II. No matter how little original upholstery is left! LOL!
 
resto

warren,
geico is in ohio. I have no interest in them since I don't like green things with a weird accent. if you were in sales then you should understand sales and marketing. I have no problems with hagerty. it would be great to see the finished product.
 
mk2

Gilles,

Don't know anything about the car's VIN number. In their article, they say they want a world class concours car, but I see a lot of things that are wrong for the car. I hope they are going to correct them. One obvious problem is with the rebuilt engine.

Thanks for bringing this project to everyone's attention.

David was at hagerty today and looked at engine it was actually at the same machine shop that I took mine to all the the numbers appeared period correct, the paint isn't so bright as in the pictures and looks good, bell housing is a cast unit and from good sources seems right as may be a option, valve covers are just to keep dust out, originals were rechromed and look great. My neighbor rebuilt the motor and any input would be great. Kevin

Not sure why I thought bell housing may be a option I guess I never so a clean one before.
 
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Valve Covers

Kevin,

Glad everything on the engine looks fine when you checked it out. My comment about the obvious issue was the set of valve covers, but I did wonder if they were using them as dust covers - makes sense. (They look a little "tall" to me, but I'm no expert. If they are taller, it might make it harder if they keep them on while reinstalling the engine.) Rechroming the original valve covers requires that the original sticker with the engine "serial number" comes off. Have folks figured out a way to remove it for rechroming and reinstalling it afterwards? That is not just a MkII issue.
 
Mk2

David I thought the same about the sticker on the valve cover will ask next time I'm there or when the neighbor returns from his trip. After reading the posts there seems to be some other issues with the car but they weren't expressed so couldn't ask about them. Kevin
 
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