Wanted Roll Bar

you're better off w/o one... These just provide the illusion of safety. All of the roll bars available for the Alpine/Tiger just bolt to the rear deck sheet metal and will collapse (or tear out) if you really have need for a roll bar... as will the w/s frame which will just sheer off the front of the car.

I can't begin to tell you how many cars I've had to repair due to being drilled for useless roll bars.... and they generally look like CRAP.

Besides, you'd really have to expend a huge amount of effort to roll a Tiger :)
 
Maybe he wants one cause they are required if you are going to get on a track.

Probably useful in a soft roll over. Cars trip as they happily side along or it's a quick grade change. I recall a Tiger end over end looking like a prat fall drunk... It's going real slow goes off the track bow first and over.

There was one at the swap meet and my pal had one in Sacramento area.

Mgmike city and state is better than United States as a location.
 
you're better off w/o one... These just provide the illusion of safety. All of the roll bars available for the Alpine/Tiger just bolt to the rear deck sheet metal and will collapse (or tear out) if you really have need for a roll bar... as will the w/s frame which will just sheer off the front of the car.

I can't begin to tell you how many cars I've had to repair due to being drilled for useless roll bars.... and they generally look like CRAP.

Besides, you'd really have to expend a huge amount of effort to roll a Tiger :)
I think the advantage is they do seem to stiffen the cars a little.. And if you add proper pads under the rear deck welded to the sides for the bar to bolt or weld into they will ne more effective.. But most are "show bars" and wouldnt be a big help in a roll.. Especially without a diagonal front bar to brace at the firewall.

I suspect the usual bars are a bigger hazard to street drivers in most situations.. As your head can contact them and it would be like being smacked with a metal bat in a rear ender.... Can pad them.. But.. Still not fun... Could add a head rest to it...

But again.. Agree with Shaun... They tend to ruin the lines of the car..
 
you're better off w/o one... These just provide the illusion of safety. All of the roll bars available for the Alpine/Tiger just bolt to the rear deck sheet metal and will collapse (or tear out) if you really have need for a roll bar... as will the w/s frame which will just sheer off the front of the car.
I have to agree with you about being an illusion. We have a Harrington that spent most of it's life until the wife bought it in the 80's as a race car on the east coast. The bar set behind the seats where most of todays bars set but it was bolted thru the X Frame and had a brace that went to the center of the right front floor and bolted thru the X frame. I'm not sure how good that would be but that would make for a very difficult road car for someone on the passenger side. Probably something you wouldn't want in a Tiger.
I think the advantage is they do seem to stiffen the cars a little.. And if you add proper pads under the rear deck welded to the sides for the bar to bolt or weld into they will ne more effective.. But most are "show bars" and wouldnt be a big help in a roll.. Especially without a diagonal front bar to brace at the firewall.

I suspect the usual bars are a bigger hazard to street drivers in most situations.. As your head can contact them and it would be like being smacked with a metal bat in a rear ender.... Can pad them.. But.. Still not fun... Could add a head rest to it...

But again.. Agree with Shaun... They tend to ruin the lines of the car..
We have a Harrington that was raced here in the eastern part of the country back in the 60's and 70's. The roll bar was secured to the X frame behind the seats and it had a brace that ran to the right front floor and it was also secured thru the X frame.
 
Mike is correct... unless the roll bar is welded to the actual structure (frame rails) and then cross bars to the front they'll just tear out of the sheet metal... if you're getting teched at a track by someone who knows his s*&^, they want to make sure it's structural, and not cosmetic
 
I'm not tracking the Tiger.I do believe they add a bit of torsional stiffness.And honestly I think they look good if it's the correct style.
Mike
 
The odds of getting rear ended is greater than anything else. As pointed out earlier a headrest is easily added.
I've taken out a couple and some had bigger plates. Not one had the diagonal bar like a couple locals that do track their cars.

I'd like a small one like in the weekend racer. It be mostly for the driving I do, not track less than 25 miles from home. The adds would be back and spine protection headrests. Good seat belt mounting points. Old cars are a compromise in many things. Unless you have a bumper sticker like a real popular one seen on a local military base two words.... Safety second.
 
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