Screw driver and hose clamps from some Roots car(?).

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Screw Driver and Hose Clamp from some Rootes car(?). I do not think they came off a Tiger. Would appreciate some clarification.
Thanks Steven Alcala

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Steve, I don't think the screwdriver is correct for a Tiger. See my piece on tool kits.
 
Rootes parts catalogues had the same PN for the screwdriver in catalogues for both cars. PN P.79758. There is no specified outside vendor PN specified one either list. Without specific proof, it appears that Rootes Group purchasing obtained lots of wood handle screwdrivers to assemble tool kits for their vehicles. I have a couple of them one I am looking at now is a Colonel by the Sheffield Company in England. Size would be to fit into the plastic tool roll supplied with each car.
Regarding wire clamps, Rootes used them on most if not all of their cars, once again looking in the Alpine Parts Manual shows mostly wire clamps except for the Series I and II Alpine shows a small worm clamp under the expansion box. I am sure there are many opinions and data on this most cars when repaired had their clamps replaced with the 'newer' worm type. Other people should weigh in on this for accurate restoration purposes.
 
When do you start moving the goal post?
Hopefully before the game and hopefully well before the team leaves home. What's this mean W. ? It means decide what's stock and what isn't before the cars leave home . Obviously Rootes used different vendors for the jacks and other bits likely at the lowest price attainable or only one available. Once you start on this path what's next any Smiths clock being acceptable because a dealer may have installed it?
I've only had two original cars from original owners or a verifiable chain of title. I would have to say that BillRo is correct . The overwhelming majority of screwdrivers don't have a flat to put a wrench on. I'm guessing that since Steven43 has been a concourse chair he asks about this tool with that in mind.
 
No one is moving any goal posts. Sorry.
If you start considering items that are not stock and not deducting for them indeed the rules change.
I'm not for goal posts being moved or rules being bent .
 
As far as the double wire hose clamps go, the fastener should be a round head, slotted machine screw. Not a hex head. All of it cad plated. This is what’s on many restored cars duplicating what was originally used.
 
Always have been a function over cosmetics guy myself. If it fits and gets the car behaving well, we like it. Consider what we did to these things when they were new. Cams, manifolds, carbs, exhausts, wheels & tires were altered by the 2nd weekend of ownership. When did the purists take over?
 
Always have been a function over cosmetics guy myself. If it fits and gets the car behaving well, we like it. Consider what we did to these things when they were new. Cams, manifolds, carbs, exhausts, wheels & tires were altered by the 2nd weekend of ownership. When did the purists take over?
One can have function AND cosmetics. Having the right screw head on a double wire clamp does not take away function, but it does maintain original cosmetics. I don't think the purist have taken over - there are three categories at the Tigers United for the concours. However, more and more folks like to show their car as what it was like when it came off the factory. The beauty of our cars is that everyone is free to do with their car whatever they want. If someone wants to add fuel injection, 16" wheels, seats with headrests, etc., that is cool. If another person wants to have their car as original as possible, that is also cool. I know what I did to my car nearly 51 years ago, and now I wish I hadn't. Some of the parts I took off are now irreplaceable. My only plea to folks is that they keep whatever was original when they replace it with something more modern. However, there is a charm to driving a car from the mid-60s that one does not get from driving a car from the 2020s. We can buy a modern car that has a whole lot more functionality than a Tiger for a whole lot less money that what the Tiger would cost. But we like driving Tigers.
 
Having the right screw head on a double wire clamp does not take away function, but it does maintain original cosmetics.
Having a hex head wire clamp would have been REALLY helpful when I put the fuel tank crossover pipe back in. I used my mechanic father-in-law's old 2 1/2 foot long screwdriver which I thought was pretty useless, until I needed it to tighten those original slotted round head clamps.
 
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