Colour Codes & Paint Chips

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Little 004 is back in the schedule after a long delay. The owners home was washed in the Long Island storm floods. Who has quality sample chips of #92 white ? There is not enough left anywhere on the car of original substance to get a clear sample from. Help appreciated. :eek:
 
Most paint supply stores have a scanner to "read" the paint--is there a small sample under the dash or by the soft top? They don't need much. Is the cowl able to buff out?
 
Randy,

Below is some info I posted on the Tiger List (almost 2 years ago) about a similar question.

"Don't forget that Jan Servaites sells samples of the correct original colors, based on work he has done checking many cars which have protected areas of panels. He has replicated the colors and made them up as samples sprayed on CD disks, which you can take to an auto paint store. They then develop a formula in their paint to match that sample using their spectrograph. The hole in the CD makes an excellent focal area to compare resultant shade to sample when overlayed. Can also do that with your own paint to see how it has faded/changed over the years. Jan's email is jservaites@woh.rr.com .

BTW, I am very pleased with the sample I bought from him for color code 100. He told me he paints his cars using BASF single stage Glaserit (sp?) 22."

Hopefully Jan is still a resource.

Gene
 
Nope

cobrakidz said:
Most paint supply stores have a scanner to "read" the paint--is there a small sample under the dash or by the soft top? They don't need much. Is the cowl able to buff out?
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A combination of salt air rust and poor repair repaints make anything on the car unreliable. #92 is one that I don't have a sample of . . . . . .
 
thanks

cadreamn67 said:
Randy,

Below is some info I posted on the Tiger List (almost 2 years ago) about a similar question.

"Don't forget that Jan Servaites sells samples of the correct original colors, based on work he has done checking many cars which have protected areas of panels. He has replicated the colors and made them up as samples sprayed on CD disks, which you can take to an auto paint store. They then develop a formula in their paint to match that sample using their spectrograph. The hole in the CD makes an excellent focal area to compare resultant shade to sample when overlayed. Can also do that with your own paint to see how it has faded/changed over the years. Jan's email is jservaites@woh.rr.com .

BTW, I am very pleased with the sample I bought from him for color code 100. He told me he paints his cars using BASF single stage Glaserit (sp?) 22."

Hopefully Jan is still a resource.

Gene
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I'll give him a holler . . . .thx
 
Alt. Jan contact?

FWIW,

I would love to have a Med Blue #100 code / sample. I would like to compare to some good spots on the car (under dash and behind headlights).

Mail to below Jan email unanswered thus far.

thanks if anyone speaks with him or can help otherwise.

Derek
 
I have a sample of Color Code 100 from Jan. I have not had any paint made up yet. I would be willing to loan it to you if you can give me some strong assurances I will get it back in a fairly short period of time. :)

Send me a PM with your address if you want to discuss further.

Gene
 
paint and timeframe

Gene,
Thank you. I figured we could work something like that out; and folks will find I'm good to my word here. But alas, I'm close but not quite where I need to be for paint... I think... So, it's a race to see who would get there first? Maybe in a month, maybe bit more. So just getting my own sample makes sense? You planning paint soon? :)

I've removed most things, but wondering next about full removal of interior for stripping/sealing or not... Seems a good idea, but I'm already way over my head and overhead. :confused:

Rather pull off windshield and frame; dash fascia; then mask over remaining stuff to leave in place for paint. Ain't too much left I suppose. Dash and carpet. And that rear area interior stuff.

Always open to suggestions...

And Michael... thanks, now you've provided me another 22 pages of research that I wasn't aware of.

Derek
 
chips

having a chip with the right color doesn't mean you'll have the right color when mixed. even with the present day mixing machines there are a lot of variables. sometimes the mixing unit does not get purged or something else happens and a color comes out wrong. this happened two weeks ago. we had a formula for # 86 that was dead on for the original. we mixed 3 gallons for the alpine and it came out right. another run was mixed for a tiger that will be identical to the alpine and the first few base coats were dead on. more paint for the top coat was mixed several weeks later using the same formula and it was much darker. I had to take over the three spare quarts we knew matched the alpine. it seems to be hit and miss in the paint industry. the moral to the story is to stay on top of the mixing process. compare the paint color to an original piece before taking delivery.
 
You are much closer to painting than I am. The desire for a fairly short turn around on loaning the sample was just to help keep things from falling between the chairs over a longer time. Has happened before even with the best of intentions on everyone's part.

May I suggest that when you are closer to having some paint made up, we can revisit how to get the sample to you. Or perhaps you and Jan end up connecting between now and then.

I can tell you I really like how the sample compared to some unweathered areas on my car.

Gene
 
Paint code Code 100 Mediterranean Blue!

Don't really like the color too much but that is my cars original color and I have finally decided to try it! My car is completely stripped and waiting for my son to sand back to original paint layers. This may take a while because we just finished his '68 Camaro!! Lol!!
 
Jan's paint sample CD

For those like me that weren't familiar. It is self-explanatory, but here's the result.

The sample is nice. I've no idea if a shop will be able to "nail it." Or not...

Compared to the original paint spots found on the car, the blue is deeper and more Mediterranean -y. :D

I prefer it to the softer baby ble as some of the more faded original colors appear.

Taking a pic to compare is tough. Light, angles, etc. But I think this shows his service and how one may compare.

Now, a real test would be for Gene and I to compare (separate lot / batch) samples.

DD (CA)
 
Interesting comparison.

A couple of observations:

There could still be a bit of weathering of the original paint in the head light rim area, despite it being hidded from direct sunlight.

You might also pull one of the side panels in the trunk and make a comparison with the paint behind the fuel tanks. That area is definitely hidden from both sunlight and weathering. However, the painting in that area was pretty rough on my car and did not seem to have the grayish primer under the top coat that I have found elsewhere on my car. The roughness and lack of primer may affect how it compares. But it was definitely closer to Jan's sample than the outside of my car.

Strangely, when I polished up the trunk floor, the paint on the hat that the spare tire hold down bolt goes through was also a pretty good match with Jan's sample.

It would be nice if the paint shop could give a spectrum graph printout of their copy of the sample and the sample itself to compare. Would be a great confirmation they got the match right. I do not know if they do, or can do that, or not.

Gene
 
100 car on e bay now

In Napa Calif. Every so often there is a seller also selling a page format chip chart page as well. A pretty original 100 car was at Tigers Utd. and it seemed rather gray. Having a 64 Falcon that was a stock very close color to Med blue we repainted a little less gray. It seems the original color was a very period color in line with some early German colors to me.

As for other areas to look there are plenty behind door cards and up under scuttle. Under the heater core cover is good too but there is not a real good flat part that fits in their paint scanner.

It takes a special person to be a paint guy. I had a client who was matching paint by eye for over 15 years that I knew him. The rods and cones in his eyes were like no machine. But that said he was rather quirky and slow being exposed to paint for 30 plus, but a hell of a guy.
 
Artists we ain't

Warren said:
In Napa Calif. Every so often there is a seller also selling a page format chip chart page as well. A pretty original 100 car was at Tigers Utd. and it seemed rather gray. Having a 64 Falcon that was a stock very close color to Med blue we repainted a little less gray. It seems the original color was a very period color in line with some early German colors to me.

As for other areas to look there are plenty behind door cards and up under scuttle. Under the heater core cover is good too but there is not a real good flat part that fits in their paint scanner.

It takes a special person to be a paint guy. I had a client who was matching paint by eye for over 15 years that I knew him. The rods and cones in his eyes were like no machine. But that said he was rather quirky and slow being exposed to paint for 30 plus, but a hell of a guy.
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In the end, paint flavor is always a subjective issue. I've learned to lay it out in broad daylight and hammer home the real fact that a good sized paint sample will never look like an entire cars worth. When done, you should be able to hide the sample on the finished product. 2-cents
 
I know it's hard to tell the correct color since cameras and monitors will change the hue every time. Here is what the color kind of looks like in the sun. :)

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Hide and seek...

Very, very happy with color result...

Thanks to all that helped on this... Jan's CD worked great and Randy is right about hiding it on there... killer!

V. what's on my monitor anyway, the Med Blue got more teal in person, but not as much as the old faded picture in my signature... does look a lot like yours Bruce... so far. I might have a trick or two up the sleeves.

It just needs a few weeks to cure (its baby skin soft...already tiny scratch my fault...) and eventually some time in the sun.
 
Derek--color looks great. Might have to make a Code 100 club up north for us....haha. Sure has come a long way since I last saw it at the strip shop. Did you go base/clear or single stage? Now comes the fun part.
 
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