fitting a new water pump

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I am refitting my tiger with a new water pump. I have read the posts and have pressed the hub and am ready to install the new pump. The impeller is hitting the housing on the test fit. I have ground the impeller and it is better.

The question is can I use two gaskets which will cure the problem or is there another easy solution to this problem. Thanks Lee 1966 tiger.
 
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I am refitting my tiger with a new water pump. I have read the posts and have pressed the hub and am ready to install the new pump. The impeller is hitting the housing on the test fit. I have ground the impeller and it is better.

The question is can I use two gaskets which will cure the problem or is there another easy solution to this problem. Thanks Lee 1966 tiger.

Something must have moved when pressing happened. There should be plenty of room in there for general clearances. Is this a cast iron closed impeller unit or the aluminum exposed impeller? In any event, you should address the correctness before installing and running the part.
 
IMHO, it should not be that close. What pump are you using? Is it one of those new Edelbrock high volume pumps with a cast metal impeller or a more generic aftermarket pump with the stamped steel version? How did you grind it and where?

If it is the stamped steel version, the ones I have seen have the impeller pressed on the shaft. serrated shaft and impeller hole so to speak. Check the clearance between the vanes and the pump body. Also look at the impeller back side that extends into the cavity of the timing cover. Is the shaft flush with the flat part of the impeller? You can press those impellers further onto the shaft and get more clearance at the back side if need be. Just do not want the vanes hitting the pump body or the shaft extending beyond the impeller.

Just support the front tip on a vice anvil or other hard flat surface. (The shaft tip, not the hub!) Take a large socket to fit over the impeller side with the hole big enough not to touch the shaft. A moderate tap of the socket with a hammer will move the impeller closer to the housing. Don't over do it. One tap and check how far it moved, check for installed clearance, repeat if necessary.

BTW, that is what I did to get my cheap aftermarket pump to have the same vane to body tip clearance as my old more expensive Stewart (Stuart?) supposedly high performance pump. Other than that distance, the pumps look exactly the same, down to the casting number on the body. And they had told me they specially make their own castings... Oh well...

If you have the Edelbrock pump, cannot help other than ask that you confirm you have the right model.

Gene
 
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Lee bought a Bosch pump like I did. When I did mine I had no such problem. I had taken it to one of the fix ins at Bud's most wonderful shop and got it pressed on about 3/8s more. We were careful and as I recall shimmed it in the press without the impeller being against the table.

The pump was a great paper weight passed around the table during the meeting it has a nice cast iron look. Comments were acceptable for the price a German branded part from China.
 
My guess is the machinist moved the impeller when he pressed the shaft. I have tapped it and the pump seems to have minimal contact now. But the impeller blades are now unbalanced and if that will cause the bearing to go out prematurely I may have damaged the new unit by tapping it and adjusting the impeller blades. Bummer it became such a big project when the pump should have been a direct bolt up and the job would have been finished in a couple hours. Thanks for the tapping advise as that may have worked before the grinding and adjusting of the blades. Lee
 
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My guess is the machinist moved the impeller when he pressed the shaft. I have tapped it and the pump seems to have minimal contact now. But the impeller blades are now unbalanced and if that will cause the bearing to go out prematurely I may have damaged the new unit by tapping it and adjusting the impeller blades. Bummer it became such a big project when the pump should have been a direct bolt up and the job would have been finished in a couple hours. Thanks for the tapping advise as that may have worked before the grinding and adjusting of the blades. Lee

From the descriptions and con-fabs, I suspect that the actual bearing & seal moved rearward along with the shaft and impeller during the pressing operation. Improper support could have caused same . . .
 
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