Wanted Looking for K&N Tiger air filter or other for stock air cleaner

michael-king said:
Bob,

You have misrepresented and mislead in regards to several things about my post and in yours.

And of course a photo of your engine bay that is also not a representative example of how Rootes supplied stock road cars.
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I'm not trying to misrepresent or mislead anything. For four decades a segment of the business I own is selling several brands of filters ranging from automotive to heavy off road equipment use as well as filters for industrial plants. I guess I just see things in a different perspective when it comes to filtering and dealing with the micron size of air filters. These cars were built in a different era. Just because it fits doesn't mean you'll get optimum performance but an air filter that filters is better than nothing. The filter companies have a tech line you can call to ask what would be your best option and that takes away the guess work. I thought some would get a kick out of seeing the stone shields instead of a filter that were installed on the LeMans conversion of Alpines by Harrington and sold by Rootes with a warranty on the engine.
 
65beam said:
I thought some would get a kick out of seeing the stone shields instead of a filter that were installed on the LeMans conversion of Alpines by Harrington and sold by Rootes with a warranty on the engine.
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So you are saying all the HLM had the competition kit spec filter housings without the oil soaked wire filter material ?
65beam said:
. These cars were built in a different era. Just because it fits doesn't mean you'll get optimum performance but an air filter that filters is better than nothing.
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If you were following the thread he is looking for a filter that fits the stock housing, and the K&N was a known part number so potentially easier to find or someone may have had spare.

The assumption was also it may be a higher performance filter...what I pointed out was that the K&N performance improvement data was shown to be somewhat misleading a while back.. and their filtration properties not as good as more standard spec filters so suggested he may look into a regular filter element.

I provided him the measurements internal and external OD for the round filters so he/ other's may be able to find one that fits.

As you often state you much knowledge and access via your years of industry employment... maybe you could help people by posting a part that could work for people... The measurements are in the earlier posts ...

I bet people would get a bigger kick out of a part number for a current filter than a photo of an alpine engine bay...
 
michael-king said:
So you are saying all the HLM had the competition kit spec filter housings without the oil soaked wire filter material ?

If you were following the thread he is looking for a filter that fits the stock housing, and the K&N was a known part number so potentially easier to find or someone may have had spare.

The assumption was also it may be a higher performance filter...what I pointed out was that the K&N performance improvement data was shown to be somewhat misleading a while back.. and their filtration properties not as good as more standard spec filters so suggested he may look into a regular filter element.

I provided him the measurements internal and external OD for the round filters so he/ other's may be able to find one that fits.

As you often state you much knowledge and access via your years of industry employment... maybe you could help people by posting a part that could work for people... The measurements are in the earlier posts ...

I bet people would get a bigger kick out of a part number for a current filter than a photo of an alpine engine bay...
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Todays filter catalogs don't list much if anything as far as air filter dimension or sizes, only applications. Most don't publish much in the way of catalogs. The best thing to do is if you have your old filter then you take it to a parts store such as NAPA, Autozone, Advance, O'Reilly's, etc. and they'll help by looking at anything similar they have in stock to see if they have anything that even comes close.
 
I don't know if this will work but I am trying to attach a Fram file from 2012.

Moderator's note: Sorry guys, but it is not a good idea for us to be posting copyrighted material. If possible, put up a hyperlink to the information on the company's website (and I know that in this case that's not possible since it's a ten year old catalog, but copyright restrictions still apply). One way that you can typically use copyrighted material, is to crop exactly the info you want to communicate, and you can post that here. But do indicate where it's from.
 
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I received the round Fram air filter today. I think it is close to the right size but bending it into an oval to fit the stock housing is a challenge.
Any suggestions?
 
pfreen said:
I received the round Fram air filter today. I think it is close to the right size but bending it into an oval to fit the stock housing is a challenge.
Any suggestions?
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Good old hair dryer warmup. DO NOT USE a paint stripper gun.
 
Cool, let us know how this works out - hoping I can follow your lead (keeping my fingers crossed). Might a kitchen oven say 180deg to uniformly warm it up be of any help - suggest you make sure the wife is away if you do so.
 
The Fram filter I bought did not work very well. The rubber ring is silicone and I was unable to bend it into an oval very well. Heat did not help since the rubber is silicone which melts at 500 deg and aluminum.
Also, it is 1-1/16" thick vs 7/8" for the stock filter so the Fram filter won't fit the id channel of the housing.

I have given up since I called Rick yesterday and he has on order filters from S&B filter and is confident they will deliver soon. I guess he used to bend Wix filters into an oval with heat, but they quit making the filter he used.

The 13-1/2" diameter worked as far as the size needed to make a 16x8-1/2" stock filter. It was just the bending and the difference in thickness which caused the problem. It is only 1-7/8" tall which is very close to the original.

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Ideally if you are bending one you want a fikter without the aluminium mesh.
The silicone is a lot stiffer than the old rubner bases... What about unifilter brand?
 
FYI, so far my web search and shopping online at auto performance sites turns up K&N 2859 filter but inventory shows none in stock or unavailable. My assumption is that K&N using e-commerce allowed other online shopping sites ability to link/order with a drop ship arrangement (a guess). Anyway, still turning up nothing, good news that Rick at SS is optmist to get some thru his supplier. Still looking for K&N filter for Tiger because really like them - anyone have an extra they want to sell or trade please keep let me know.
 
pfreen and jbetz821, good job. I guess now I have another project and just want to confirm that both of you started with the Fram CA3371 filter ? Also I may need to invest in a lot of clamps ;) Curious, once re-shapped does the filter maintain the new oval shape fairly well vs. another two person job to fit it in the AC housing?
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or, Tony Butler, get out my old wood tools and copy your stretcher idea. Amazing how quickly everyone circled the wagons on this air filter issue - appreciate the time/efforts to all.
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