Mk II in Hagerty Article

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There is an on-line article by Hagerty about British V-8 cars in upcoming Amelia Island auctions. Here is a link (don't know how long it will last, though) - https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2020/02/24/british-v-8s-invading-2020-amelia-island-auctions?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20_February_25_Newsletter_NewDD

One of the cars featured is a Mk II Tiger. However, most Tiger aficionados will be able to catch more than a couple errors about Tigers in the article, but it is still nice to see a photo of a beautiful Mk II.
 
I'm easily amused

Some owners of Mark 1 swap out a 289 into the car to clone a Mark 2..
Lol....
Just like I almost did but remain polite when looking at the Mark 2 that they restored when it showed up at Palos Verdes on the way to Northern California. With unlimited assets you figure you would get a better job done..
 
Im not sure how a group like hagerty seem to keep making these errors... It appears they lift info from Wikipedia and other non-researched sources... Disappointing.. And in theory they should know the cars better if they are insuring them....
 
Editors..etc.

Michael the CSR who quotes the business is mostly concerned with the vehicle being garaged and not as a daily driver by a poser looking to avoid full boat daily driver rates for an old junky car. I sent them 2 quarter angle photos no engine shots, and they were happy. When I told them I did their job they opened up with many of their underwriting guidelines. Obviously they need marque specific guest editors, like Dave or you :)
 
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I have five cars insured by Hagerty. Hagerty employees have done an in house restoration of a MK 2 so they do have some knowledge of Tigers. I've seen it many times over the years. It's possible that the answer to those that question why there may be some wrong details in their articles could be that these writers might not even be employees of Hagerty. Maybe the articles were written and published by a public relations firm using the only info available to them. In this case the writer could work for the auction company. It's really hard to state a reason why mistakes are made but I can say the car shown is very nice and that's because I've seen it. A recent auction sale of a rebodied Harrington shows that buyers buy based on what they want and probably not the exact details.
 
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Who hold themselves out to be "experts" owe a duty to do their own fact checking and editing. I never said the MK2 did not look good. As a point to make there is a Porsche restorer in Fallbrook California with a Tiger and it is restored to a very high but incorrect manner it's for sale on Hemmings. I would say that they can probably build a 100 point Porsche but that Tiger would get hammered in a stock class. I'm not saying that the MK2 was bad just that with the unlimited assets and their "Ultimate Tiger." article they also put out that they should have applied more of the ultimate knowledge they cited. The car was very nice but not up to the level of what rolls out of our marque specific guy's shops.
 
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Warren said:
The car was very nice but not up to the level of what rolls out of our marque specific guy's shops.
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Warren, I understand what you're saying because I have more than one Sunbeam in my collection that has been restored by one of the well known marque specific shops. These shops also have a background of knowledge of the problems that have happened over the years and they have devised improvements to solve these problems. The improvements may not be 100% concourse but it would take someone with a good knowledge of how it was originally to be able to see the changes made.
 
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We have seen the Hagerty Tiger Mk II and recognized more than a couple of wrong parts on the car. Whoever did the restoration seems to have been more worried about having pretty parts instead of the correct parts. And I am not talking about minutia.
 
65beam said:
Warren, I understand what you're saying because I have more than one Sunbeam in my collection that has been restored by one of the well known marque specific shops. These shops also have a background of knowledge of the problems that have happened over the years and they have devised improvements to solve these problems. The improvements may not be 100% concourse but it would take someone with a good knowledge of how it was originally to be able to see the changes made.
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Bob if that's a compliment I'll take it ...
 
While im sure the theory that the article might be written by a PR company or subcontractor is just someone offering a counter for the sake of it.. That would actually reflect even more poorly on hagerty.

If they have the knowledge and produce conntent they have a responsibility to take ownership of what they issue in their name.

If the guys in hagerty didnt spot the glaring errors and misinformation they either dont read their own content, dont care or don't know. ... Not really a good look.

Globally classic insurance companies are putting out magazines, articles, videos etc to show they know the people and the cars in an effort to get the business.. Disappointing if they get it wrong in a lazy way.
 
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michael-king said:
While im sure the theory that the article might be written by a PR company or subcontractor is just someone offering a counter for the sake of it.. That would actually reflect even more poorly on hagerty.

If they have the knowledge and produce conntent they have a responsibility to take ownership of what they issue in their name.

If the guys in hagerty didnt spot the glaring errors and misinformation they either dont read their own content, dont care or don't know. ... Not really a good look.

Globally classic insurance companies are putting out magazines, articles, videos etc to show they know the people and the cars in an effort to get the business.. Disappointing if they get it wrong in a lazy way.[/QUOTE
I can see that it would be difficult for some folks to understand why mistakes or slight deviations from exact details may happen. Company managers delegate department heads / managers to handle their realm of authority as top management has a much broader scope of issues to handle. Micro management such as making sure every detail is 110 % correct isn't something they have time for. I'm sure the same applies to a company such as Hagerty.
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As i said .... Some people seem to put forward counter opinions just for the sake of "argument" .. Whatever floats their boat.

Facts and correct matter very little to some... Misinformation from trusted sources leads to what it leads to... I highly doubt or suggested the manager of haggerty insurance needs to fact check rhe article.. But you wpuld assume they have people to check conntent they produce.. Or the guys involved in their mkii resto may have looked it over..

But getting things right is all a moot point with some.... They wont acknowledge an honest mistake .. Just double down or pivot and say its the way they do it or say its doesnt matter...
 
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michael-king said:
As i said .... Some people seem to put forward counter opinions just for the sake of "argument" .. Whatever floats their boat.

Facts and correct matter very little to some... Misinformation from trusted sources leads to what it leads to... I highly doubt or suggested the manager of haggerty insurance needs to fact check rhe article.. But you wpuld assume they have people to check conntent they produce.. Or the guys involved in their mkii resto may have looked it over..

But getting things right is all a moot point with some.... They wont acknowledge an honest mistake .. Just double down or pivot and say its the way they do it or say its doesnt matter...
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Old proverb: HE WHO MAKES NO MISTAKES HAS DONE NOTHING
 
About the article we've all seen mistakes like that before yes you would have thought Hagerty would have known better I guess not. Personally when I first saw the finished car I was amazed at the job they did but I wasn't trying to find fault with the car either. I do know they tried to use as much of the original car and parts as possible which they did. Hagerty is here in my hometown and I was fortunate to see the car when it first arrived that said great job Hagerty employee's
 
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I first saw it in Atlanta. Looks real nice
 

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I am relieved my Tiger is classified as a "Modified" Tiger. I only have to worry if things work (and look good). Cliff
 
65beam said:
Old proverb: HE WHO MAKES NO MISTAKES HAS DONE NOTHING
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Sadly some never learn from their mistakes... and keep making them... Which is why we keep seeing misinformation repeated.

But lets be honest .. This thread is being dragged of course by the usual suspects..

Maybe the mistake i keep making is feeding the troll....

BHB
 
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