Opinion on VIN Tag Removal

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XTIGERX said:
That's the way I feel too.

I had mine removed for painting after being assured it would be replaced with correct rivets only to find out years latter they weren't.
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Well, if you are really patient, there's a clever way to remove and reuse the old rivets. Just ask Smitty (the old fox strikes agin).
 
I was ferreting around in my old parts bins and there was a set of original size rivits that I did not use with my last restoration. Good to know if my body man wants to remove the vin tag.
 
steven said:
I was ferreting around in my old parts bins and there was a set of original size rivits that I did not use with my last restoration. Good to know if my body man wants to remove the vin tag.
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Its not so much size as the type... the MKIA/II used a specific type of rivert.. it was also used on some other rootes cars for fastening bits to the body and also on some parts on SV alpines.
 
When I sourced these items about 10 years ago, the seller told me they were original stock and he also had the rivits that fitted the trim to the valance on the series IV alpines and a MK1 Tigers. I thought at the time it would be a good pickup.
 
Great topic related to our Sunbeam Tigers. Rivets are replaced throughout the auto restoration world during restorations. This is an acceptable practice. A recent Chasing Classic Cars showed 15 cars in an auction questioned because of the Vin tags. The most important thing to do when considering this is to document the removal. Especially for our Tiger friends. For some reason a very high percentage of our cars have had the original rivets removed and replaced. An original rivet car is just a little more solid and that is all. Now that original rivets are becoming more available or glued from under or reattached rivets are being used this will become more important in the review when the cars are TAC'd. Some day the rivets will not be important because so many will be reattached with correct reproduction rivets or used ones. If I was restoring a Tiger and as correct as the Oldsmobile I just restored I would use exact rivets not to fool anyone but because when you have a 1000 point perfect car that is an important detail and you cannot have any detail that is not correct. I actually believe the TAC guys should also look at the Vin tags. There are many restamps since they are not very easy to replicate correctly. The roots guys used difficult to get number stamps and various sizes on our vin tags making them hard to replicate. Some of our members have incredible knowledge related to the vin tags too. Again great topic! Lee
 
P. Scofield said:
Read the FAQ section here from Metalworks in Eugene, OR., as they explain there is a little urban legend to the leaking seams.


Their web site explains in great length about how they avoid "leaking seams". After talking to few people who have shown me the results of "leaking seams", it is more than an urban legend. Most likely the "leaking seams" are due to not being as diligent as Metalworks is in neutralizing the solvent in seams.
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I was at the dippers today to pick up parts and to drop off parts. he also powder coats parts for me. I told him about this thread and paul's idea on partially dipping the body. why stop the rust process on one part of the car and not in the rest of the car? this comes from a guy that knows tiger bodies since he has done so many over the years.
 
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What if the process is carried out in a state that permits removal and re-installation for the purpose of restoration?
 
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now you know why a couple of my cars got the entire body dipped. we preserved the tags.
 
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