Turn Signal Lever Pull Back

[KenF]

Just curious, I notice the turn signal lever can be mechanically pulled back as if there were plans to add some other function. Maybe add wiring to flash the high beams? Looking at the wiring diagram, no high beam wiring exists outside the lamps and "dipper" switch. Other feature or reason? Or maybe my turn signal switch is just worn.

 

[michael-king]

The later cars have a flasher on the stalk.

Think it started with the late square corner cars before the move to mkia ... But dont hold me on exact date...

Am sure one of the guys with a parts book handy will be able to chime in on the VIN for the intro.

 

[steven]

My series V alpine has the headlight flasher feature so Mk 2 Tigers should also have it. If your flasher has the feature it is most proberly a replacment

 

[Forrest39]

I have one of those too. Looks like high current going through a momentary contact switch that wasn't designed for it. I'd suggest a relay just to be safe. The foot switch that normally handles that circuit looks fairly stout by comparison.
-Kevin

 

[0neoffive]

Other Uses

I have hooked the horns to that pull stalk when using aftermarket steering wheels. Thru a relay for safety.

 

[HolyCat]

Curious

The wiring diagrams in the Tiger Workshop Manual do not show the turn indicator switch as having the flasher function. They only show a "dipper switch". My Mk II has the floor-mounted dipper switch. If the turn signal switch has that capability, it was never wired up. I do recall years ago seeing folks sell the turn signal indicator switch with this function, as an upgrade. I do not have an Alpine workshop manual, so I do not know what the wiring diagram shows.

The Alpine parts manual does indicate that the turn signal switch was also a headlight flasher switch. See the attached snapshot of the Alpine Parts Manual.

The Tiger parts supplement does not list the turn signal switch, so one would expect that it is the same as the Alpine's. Yet, it does list two flasher switches (one for Mk I and one for Mk II). Again, see attached.

 

[Warren]

European

Many period Europe version cars have the fast lane Autobahn dip switch. It's how you ask nicely for somebody to move over so you can pass. I've seen guys selling them on eBay for stupid money.Just like the turn signal canceler plastic piece for 75 bucks...

 

[KenF]

Well, maybe a winter project when I pull the steering wheel to do some other stuff, I'll a take a closer look at the switch and add a relay to the high beams. Gotta let those Prius' know to get outta my way.

 

[Warren]

Drivers

I just don't like the dirty looks the Prius drivers give me. I do my fair share of polluting but probably not as much as their gardeners with their two-stroke leaf blowers.

 

[moonstone SIV]

The Alpine SIII introduced the flash function to the indicator wand along with various other Rootes models released in 1963. UK, euro spec and most export models had the feature but for some obscure reason on cars destined for the US the switch contacts were deleted. US delivered Tigers followed this requirement until the Mk II (?) when it was finally standardised. Maybe a DOT thing similar to the deletion of amber rear turn signal lenses.

 

[HolyCat]

No Evidence for Mk II in Wiring Diagram

The Workshop Manual for the "260" and "289" show only the foot-operated high beam switch in the wiring diagram. It does not show anything on the turn indicator switch being tied to the headlights. The Parts Supplement for the "260" and "289" list the high beam dip switch as being unique to USA/Cananda. See the attachments in my previous post on this subject.

In order to put this matter to rest, I dug out my original Mk II Owner's Handbook. Here is a copy of page 9. Note that it refers only to the floor mounted dip switch. Part of the confusion might come from the manual refers to the "flashing type indicators" for the turn signals. While the turn signal lights "flash", the head light high beams "dip".

Where did you get your information that Mk IIs came with the dip feature on the turn signal switch being standardized on Mk IIs?

I agree with you that this probably was a DOT regulation. Perhaps the DOT requirement for a floor mounted switch had gone away by the time of the Mk II, but Rootes probably would have decided not to worry about making any more changes on a car that was going away anyway.

 

[moonstone SIV]

David,

I was relying on anecdotal evidence re. Mk II's, hence the question mark in my post. If the page from your handbook is for a US delivered car then it seems they missed out on the feature as well.

You've referred to the "dip" function of the indicator wand. This could cause confusion since the function, when it is wired into the switch, is to "flash" the high beam circuit only. Hope this provides some clarification.

 

[HolyCat]

US Mk IIs

I believe the Mk II was planned for the North American market only, with a low number were sold elsewhere. It would make sense that European cars would have the pull to dip turn signal switch, but it does not look like the US/Canada cars came that way.

My owners manual appears to be the only version ever printed for the Mk II, according to the "260" and "289" Parts Supplement. Attached is a screen shot of the last version of that parts supplement. Only one Owners Manual is listed for the Mk II.

That was my point about flash versus dip. Those words have different meaning in different countries. The problem is that we confused by speaking the same language - English!